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== | In {{FE4}}, '''substitute characters''' are playable [[unit]]s who replace the second-generation children characters in the event that their corresponding mother failed to have children. Seven of the female characters in the game's first generation, all potential mothers, are not guaranteed to be [[Love|married]] before or to survive until the first generation's end, and so if a mother dies or is not paired up before the conclusion of [[Doorway to Destiny|Chapter 5]], their corresponding children characters are replaced by a pair of substitute characters who function in a near-identical role in the second generation's plot and gameplay. To a lesser extent, the substitute character concept is also applicable to {{FE13}} with regard to [[Lucina]]'s parentage in the event that [[Chrom]] fails to marry. | ||
=={{FE4}}== | |||
Of the nine female characters playable in the first generation, seven are left to the player's discretion on the matter of being paired up, and so the potential exists for these mothers to either be killed or fail to be paired with a male character in order to give birth to the mother's assigned child characters for the second generation. As such, each mother is assigned a pair of substitute characters who will appear in their children's stead if they fail to be paired, filling story roles and ensuring the player does not have any fewer units than if the mother had been successfully paired. This obviously does not apply to the two pre-set relationships in the first generation's story and gameplay: [[Deirdre]]'s children, [[Seliph]] and [[Julia]], do not have substitutes as Deirdre being married to [[Sigurd]] is entirely unavoidable in the course of the game, and Julia's stats are instead pre-set outside the standard inheritance system. [[Ethlyn]]'s children, [[Altena]] and [[Leif]], also do not have substitutes as she begins the game already married to [[Quan]]. | Of the nine female characters playable in the first generation, seven are left to the player's discretion on the matter of being paired up, and so the potential exists for these mothers to either be killed or fail to be paired with a male character in order to give birth to the mother's assigned child characters for the second generation. As such, each mother is assigned a pair of substitute characters who will appear in their children's stead if they fail to be paired, filling story roles and ensuring the player does not have any fewer units than if the mother had been successfully paired. This obviously does not apply to the two pre-set relationships in the first generation's story and gameplay: [[Deirdre]]'s children, [[Seliph]] and [[Julia]], do not have substitutes as Deirdre being married to [[Sigurd]] is entirely unavoidable in the course of the game, and Julia's stats are instead pre-set outside the standard inheritance system. [[Ethlyn]]'s children, [[Altena]] and [[Leif]], also do not have substitutes as she begins the game already married to [[Quan]]. | ||
For the most part, the substitutes are identical in class and functionality to their matching children, with a small handful of exceptions: [[Amid]] is a [[Wind Mage]] as opposed to [[Arthur (Genealogy of the Holy War)|Arthur]]'s [[Mage]], [[Linda]] is a [[Thunder Mage]] as opposed to [[ | For the most part, the substitutes are identical in class and functionality to their matching children, with a small handful of exceptions: [[Amid]] is a [[Wind Mage]] as opposed to [[Arthur (Genealogy of the Holy War)|Arthur]]'s [[Mage]], [[Linda]] is a [[Thunder Mage]] as opposed to [[Tine]]'s [[Mage]], and [[Creidne]] promotes to [[Forrest (class)|Forrest]] instead of [[Swordmaster]] as [[Larcei]] does. As the substitute characters do not receive any form of [[inheritance]] from either parent in the course of gameplay, as a general rule they are inferior to their corresponding child characters, though still entirely usable. The only substitutes to possess [[Holy Blood]] are [[Amid]] and [[Linda]], who are still part of House [[Friege]] as necessitated by replacing the story roles of [[Tailtiu]]'s children. The game goes to some lengths to provide minor compensation for the inferiority of the substitutes: all fourteen have special events that the corresponding children lack that grant items or stats (though [[Femina]] and [[Jeanne]] share an event so only one of the two can receive it), and others start with otherwise unobtainable items and skills not easily available to the corresponding children. | ||
While the matter of what is and is not considered canon is always nebulous and debatable in the context of ''Fire Emblem'' games, owing to the large number of possible outcomes with respect to unit survival and pairings achieved, as a general rule the substitute characters are neglected as not canonically existing in other representations of the ''Genealogy of the Holy War'' cast. {{FE5}} establishes a number of canon pairings and accordingly present children while none of the substitute characters appear or are acknowledged, although there is evidence to suggest that at some point in the development of the game they were intended to appear instead.<ref>Serenes Forest: [ | While the matter of what is and is not considered canon is always nebulous and debatable in the context of ''Fire Emblem'' games, owing to the large number of possible outcomes with respect to unit survival and pairings achieved, as a general rule the substitute characters are neglected as not canonically existing in other representations of the ''Genealogy of the Holy War'' cast. {{FE5}} establishes a number of canon pairings and accordingly present children while none of the substitute characters appear or are acknowledged, although there is evidence to suggest that at some point in the development of the game they were intended to appear instead.<ref>Serenes Forest: [https://serenesforest.net/thracia-776/general/prototype-information/ Thracia 776 - Prototype information]</ref> Similarly, only actual children characters appear as [[bonus units]] in {{FE13}} while the substitutes remain excluded. | ||
== | ===List of substitutes=== | ||
{| | {| class="cellpadding-3 basic" style="border-color: {{Color3}}" | ||
!style=" | ! style="background: none" | Mother | ||
!style=" | ! style="background: none" | Children | ||
!style=" | ! style="background: none" | Substitutes | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[File:portrait deirdre fe04.png]]<br>[[Deirdre]]<br><small>[[Shaman]]</small> | |||
| [[File:portrait seliph fe04.png]] [[File:Portrait julia fe04.png]]<br>[[Seliph]] and [[Julia]]<br><small>[[Junior Lord]] and [[Shaman (Genealogy of the Holy War)|Shaman]]</small> | |||
| N/A. [[Sigurd]] and Deirdre always fall in love during [[Lady of the Forest|Chapter 1]].<br> Julia is considered a static character (i.e not a child unit) in gameplay. | |||
|- | |- | ||
| [[File:portrait ethlyn fe04.png]]<br>[[Ethlyn]]<br><small>[[Troubadour]]</small> | |||
| [[File:portrait altena fe04.png]] [[File:portrait leif fe04.png]]<br>[[Altena]] and [[Leif]]<br><small>[[Wyvern Rider]] and [[Prince]]</small> | |||
| | | N/A. [[Quan]] and Ethlyn are lovers by default. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[File:portrait edain fe04.png]]<br>[[Edain]]<br><small>[[Priest]]</small> | |||
| [[File:portrait lester fe04.png]] [[File:portrait lana fe04.png]]<br>[[Lester]] and [[Lana]]<br><small>[[Arch Knight]] and [[Priest]]</small> | |||
| [[File:portrait deimne fe04.png]] [[File:portrait muirne fe04.png]]<br>[[Deimne]] and [[Muirne]]<br><small>[[Arch Knight]] and [[Priest]]</small> | |||
|- | |- | ||
| [[File:portrait ayra fe04.png]]<br>[[Ayra]]<br><small>[[Myrmidon]]</small> | |||
| [[File:portrait scáthach fe04.png]] [[File:portrait larcei fe04.png]]<br>[[Scáthach]] and [[Larcei]]<br><small>[[Myrmidon]] and [[Myrmidon]]</small> | |||
| [[File:portrait dalvin fe04.png]] [[File:portrait creidne fe04.png]]<br>[[Dalvin]] and [[Creidne]]<br><small>[[Myrmidon]] and [[Myrmidon]]</small> | |||
|- | |- | ||
| [[File:portrait lachesis fe04.png]]<br>[[Lachesis]]<br><small>[[Princess]]</small> | |||
| [[File:portrait diarmuid fe04.png]] [[File:portrait nanna fe04.png]]<br>[[Diarmuid]] and [[Nanna]]<br><small>[[Free Knight]] and [[Troubadour]]</small> | |||
| [[File:portrait tristan fe04.png]] [[File:portrait jeanne fe04.png]]<br>[[Tristan]] and [[Jeanne]]<br><small>[[Free Knight]] and [[Troubadour]]</small> | |||
|- | |- | ||
| [[File:portrait silvia fe04.png]]<br>[[Silvia]]<br><small>[[Dancer]]</small> | |||
| [[File:portrait lene fe04.png]] [[File:portrait coirpre fe04.png]]<br>[[Lene]] and [[Coirpre]]<br><small>[[Dancer]] and [[Priest]]</small> | |||
| [[File:portrait laylea fe04.png]] [[File:portrait charlot fe04.png]]<br>[[Laylea]] and [[Charlot]]<br><small>[[Dancer]] and [[Priest]]</small> | |||
|- | |- | ||
| [[File:portrait erinys fe04.png]]<br>[[Erinys]]<br><small>[[Pegasus Knight]]</small> | |||
| [[File:portrait ced fe04.png]] [[File:portrait fee fe04.png]]<br>[[Ced]] and [[Fee]]<br><small>[[Sage]] and [[Pegasus Knight]]</small> | |||
| [[File:portrait hawk fe04.png]] [[File:portrait hermina fe04.png]]<br>[[Hawk (character)|Hawk]] and [[Hermina]]<br><small>[[Sage]] and [[Pegasus Knight]]</small> | |||
|- | |- | ||
|style=" | | style="border-bottom-left-radius: 15px;" | [[File:portrait brigid fe04.png]]<br>[[Brigid]]<br><small>[[Sniper]]</small> | ||
| [[File:portrait febail fe04.png]] [[File:portrait patty fe04.png]]<br>[[Febail]] and [[Patty]]<br><small>[[Bow Fighter]] and [[Thief]]</small> | |||
|style=" | | style="border-bottom-right-radius: 15px;" | [[File:portrait asaello fe04.png]] [[File:portrait daisy fe04.png]]<br>[[Asaello]] and [[Daisy]]<br><small>[[Bow Fighter]] and [[Thief]]</small> | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[File:portrait tailtiu fe04.png]]<br>[[Tailtiu]]<br><small>[[Thunder Mage]]</small> | |||
| [[File:portrait arthur fe04.png]] [[File:portrait tine fe04.png]]<br>[[Arthur (Genealogy of the Holy War)|Arthur]] and [[Tine]]<br><small>[[Mage]] and [[Mage]]</small> | |||
| [[File:portrait amid fe04.png]] [[File:portrait linda fe04.png]]<br>[[Amid]] and [[Linda]]<br><small>[[Wind Mage]] and [[Thunder Mage]]</small> | |||
|} | |} | ||
== | =={{FE13}}== | ||
[[File:Portrait maiden fe13.png|thumb|right|The Maiden, [[Lucina]]'s substitute mother.]] | [[File:Portrait maiden fe13.png|thumb|right|The [[Maiden]], [[Lucina]]'s substitute mother.]] | ||
While {{FE13}} also features a similar multi-generational children system, unlike that of ''Genealogy of the Holy War'', the children are not the sole focus of part of the game and are optional units, fighting alongside their parents due to being involved with Lucina's travel back to Chrom's time. As such, ''Awakening'' does not need - and thus does not have - substitute children characters. A slight exception exists with [[Lucina]], who is critical to the game's plot: if [[Chrom]] does not have any support relationships with an eligible female character ([[Sumia]], [[Olivia]], [[Sully]], [[Maribelle]] or [[Robin|a female Robin]]) by the end of [[Mad King Gangrel|Chapter 11]] for any reason (such as his potential brides being already married or having been [[Death|killed]]), he will instead marry an unnamed, generic Maiden as a substitute wife. Similarly to the ''Genealogy of the Holy War'' substitute children, this results in a Lucina with poorer base stats and growths fueled solely by Chrom's stats, as well as lacking any skills that may be inherited from a proper bride. | While {{FE13}} also features a similar multi-generational children system, unlike that of ''Genealogy of the Holy War'', the children are not the sole focus of part of the game and are optional units, fighting alongside their parents due to being involved with Lucina's travel back to Chrom's time. As such, ''Awakening'' does not need - and thus does not have - substitute children characters. A slight exception exists with [[Lucina]], who is critical to the game's plot: if [[Chrom]] does not have any support relationships with an eligible female character ([[Sumia]], [[Olivia]], [[Sully]], [[Maribelle]] or [[Robin|a female Robin]]) by the end of [[Mad King Gangrel|Chapter 11]] for any reason (such as his potential brides being already married or having been [[Death|killed]]), he will instead marry an unnamed, generic [[Maiden]] as a substitute wife. Similarly to the ''Genealogy of the Holy War'' substitute children, this results in a Lucina with poorer base stats and growths fueled solely by Chrom's stats, as well as lacking any skills that may be inherited from a proper bride. | ||
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Latest revision as of 17:13, 28 March 2024
- This article is about the inheritance mechanic in Genealogy of the Holy War. For the spare units in Shadow Dragon and New Mystery of the Emblem, see Replacement unit.
In Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War, substitute characters are playable units who replace the second-generation children characters in the event that their corresponding mother failed to have children. Seven of the female characters in the game's first generation, all potential mothers, are not guaranteed to be married before or to survive until the first generation's end, and so if a mother dies or is not paired up before the conclusion of Chapter 5, their corresponding children characters are replaced by a pair of substitute characters who function in a near-identical role in the second generation's plot and gameplay. To a lesser extent, the substitute character concept is also applicable to Fire Emblem Awakening with regard to Lucina's parentage in the event that Chrom fails to marry.
Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War
Of the nine female characters playable in the first generation, seven are left to the player's discretion on the matter of being paired up, and so the potential exists for these mothers to either be killed or fail to be paired with a male character in order to give birth to the mother's assigned child characters for the second generation. As such, each mother is assigned a pair of substitute characters who will appear in their children's stead if they fail to be paired, filling story roles and ensuring the player does not have any fewer units than if the mother had been successfully paired. This obviously does not apply to the two pre-set relationships in the first generation's story and gameplay: Deirdre's children, Seliph and Julia, do not have substitutes as Deirdre being married to Sigurd is entirely unavoidable in the course of the game, and Julia's stats are instead pre-set outside the standard inheritance system. Ethlyn's children, Altena and Leif, also do not have substitutes as she begins the game already married to Quan.
For the most part, the substitutes are identical in class and functionality to their matching children, with a small handful of exceptions: Amid is a Wind Mage as opposed to Arthur's Mage, Linda is a Thunder Mage as opposed to Tine's Mage, and Creidne promotes to Forrest instead of Swordmaster as Larcei does. As the substitute characters do not receive any form of inheritance from either parent in the course of gameplay, as a general rule they are inferior to their corresponding child characters, though still entirely usable. The only substitutes to possess Holy Blood are Amid and Linda, who are still part of House Friege as necessitated by replacing the story roles of Tailtiu's children. The game goes to some lengths to provide minor compensation for the inferiority of the substitutes: all fourteen have special events that the corresponding children lack that grant items or stats (though Femina and Jeanne share an event so only one of the two can receive it), and others start with otherwise unobtainable items and skills not easily available to the corresponding children.
While the matter of what is and is not considered canon is always nebulous and debatable in the context of Fire Emblem games, owing to the large number of possible outcomes with respect to unit survival and pairings achieved, as a general rule the substitute characters are neglected as not canonically existing in other representations of the Genealogy of the Holy War cast. Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 establishes a number of canon pairings and accordingly present children while none of the substitute characters appear or are acknowledged, although there is evidence to suggest that at some point in the development of the game they were intended to appear instead.[1] Similarly, only actual children characters appear as bonus units in Fire Emblem Awakening while the substitutes remain excluded.
List of substitutes
Mother | Children | Substitutes |
---|---|---|
Deirdre Shaman |
Seliph and Julia Junior Lord and Shaman |
N/A. Sigurd and Deirdre always fall in love during Chapter 1. Julia is considered a static character (i.e not a child unit) in gameplay. |
Ethlyn Troubadour |
Altena and Leif Wyvern Rider and Prince |
N/A. Quan and Ethlyn are lovers by default. |
Edain Priest |
Lester and Lana Arch Knight and Priest |
Deimne and Muirne Arch Knight and Priest |
Ayra Myrmidon |
Scáthach and Larcei Myrmidon and Myrmidon |
Dalvin and Creidne Myrmidon and Myrmidon |
Lachesis Princess |
Diarmuid and Nanna Free Knight and Troubadour |
Tristan and Jeanne Free Knight and Troubadour |
Silvia Dancer |
Lene and Coirpre Dancer and Priest |
Laylea and Charlot Dancer and Priest |
Erinys Pegasus Knight |
Ced and Fee Sage and Pegasus Knight |
Hawk and Hermina Sage and Pegasus Knight |
Brigid Sniper |
Febail and Patty Bow Fighter and Thief |
Asaello and Daisy Bow Fighter and Thief |
Tailtiu Thunder Mage |
Arthur and Tine Mage and Mage |
Amid and Linda Wind Mage and Thunder Mage |
Fire Emblem Awakening
While Fire Emblem Awakening also features a similar multi-generational children system, unlike that of Genealogy of the Holy War, the children are not the sole focus of part of the game and are optional units, fighting alongside their parents due to being involved with Lucina's travel back to Chrom's time. As such, Awakening does not need - and thus does not have - substitute children characters. A slight exception exists with Lucina, who is critical to the game's plot: if Chrom does not have any support relationships with an eligible female character (Sumia, Olivia, Sully, Maribelle or a female Robin) by the end of Chapter 11 for any reason (such as his potential brides being already married or having been killed), he will instead marry an unnamed, generic Maiden as a substitute wife. Similarly to the Genealogy of the Holy War substitute children, this results in a Lucina with poorer base stats and growths fueled solely by Chrom's stats, as well as lacking any skills that may be inherited from a proper bride.
References
- ↑ Serenes Forest: Thracia 776 - Prototype information
See also
- Inheritance
- Love
- Kezhda, a boss in Radiant Dawn who works on a similar principle