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====Reinforcements====
====Reinforcements====
=====''Mystery of the Emblem''=====
=====''Mystery of the Emblem''=====
*Starting Turn 4, continuing until 11 of each have appeared; which ones appear per turn are determined randomly
*Starting turn 4, continuing until 11 of each have appeared; which appear each turn is random
**A [[Hunter]] from the uppermost of the west forts
**1 [[Hunter]] from the uppermost of the west forts
**3 [[Pirate]]s, 2 from the lower west forts, 1 from the east fort
**3 [[Pirate]]s; 2 from the lower of the west forts, 1 from the east fort
 
=====''New Mystery of the Emblem''=====
=====''New Mystery of the Emblem''=====
*Turn 6
*Turn 6
**1 [[Hunter]] from the uppermost of the west forts
**1 [[Hunter]] from the uppermost of the west forts
**2 [[Barbarian]]s, from the lowest of the west forts
**2 [[Barbarian]]s from the lowest of the west forts
**1 [[Pirate]] from the east fort
**1 [[Pirate]] from the east fort



Revision as of 22:14, 21 July 2021

Joy and Sorrow

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Location

Holm Beach

New units

Ogma, Yuliya, Jubelo, Sirius, Castor, and Caeda*

Boss(es)

Gail

Joy and Sorrow (Japanese: 喜びと悲しみと) is the fourth chapter of Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem Book II and Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem.

Plot

Main articles: Joy and Sorrow/Script and Joy and Sorrow/Conversations

This section has been marked as a stub. Please help improve the page by adding information.


Chapter data

Chapter data

Mystery of the Emblem New Mystery of the Emblem

Normal Lunatic

Chapter Data
Conditions
Unit Data
Victory: Seize Player Partner Other Enemy
Defeat: Marth dies 9+5 {{{partner}}} {{{other}}} 18+4-1
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Character data

Mystery of the Emblem New Mystery of the Emblem

Characters
New units
Ogma
Portrait ogma fe12.png
Mercenary
HP
27
Inventory
--
Level
7
Automatically from Turn 1
Yuliya
Portrait yuliya fe12.png
Cleric
HP
16
Inventory
--
Level
2
Automatically from Turn 1
Jubelo
Portrait jubelo fe12.png
Mage
HP
18
Inventory
--
Level
1
Automatically from Turn 1
Sirius
Portrait sirius fe12.png
Paladin
HP
28
Inventory
--
Level
1
Enemy, talk with Ogma
Castor
Portrait castor fe12.png
Hunter
HP
24
Inventory
--
Level
7
Visit northern village
Available characters
Default female player's unit ​Ryan ​Luke ​Roderick ​Cecil ​Marth ​Gordin ​Draug ​Arran ​Marisha ​Catria ​Warren ​Cord ​Linde ​Palla ​Bord ​Julian ​Matthis ​Wrys ​

Ogma retains any stat gains he acquired in the Prologue.

Item data

Mystery of the Emblem New Mystery of the Emblem

Items
Name Obtainment Method
Is ds cutting gale.png Cutting Gale Visit the southern village
Is ds armorslayer.png Armorslayer Dropped by a Thief
Is ds devil sword.png Devil Sword Dropped by a Thief
Is ds vulnerary.png Vulnerary Dropped by a Hunter
Is ds steel bow.png Steel Bow Dropped by a Hunter
Is ds bullion.png Bullion Dropped by Gail

Enemy data


This section has been marked as a stub. Please help improve the page by adding information.


Enemy data

Mystery of the Emblem New Mystery of the Emblem

Enemy Units
Name Class Lv # Inventory and Skills Notes
Ma ds02 thief enemy.gif
Ruffian Thief 3 1 ArmorslayerThis item is dropped upon this unit's defeat. --
Ma ds02 thief enemy.gif
Ruffian Thief 3 1 Devil SwordThis item is dropped upon this unit's defeat. --
Ma ds02 thief enemy.gif
Ruffian Thief 3 1 Iron Sword --
Ma ds02 barbarian enemy.gif
Ruffian Barbarian 3 3 Iron Axe --
Ma ds02 pirate enemy.gif
Ruffian Pirate 3 5 Iron Axe --
Ma ds02 pirate enemy.gif
Ruffian Pirate 5 1 Steel Axe --
Ma ds02 hunter enemy.gif
Ruffian Hunter 3 2 Iron Bow --
Ma ds02 hunter enemy.gif
Ruffian Hunter 3 1 Iron Bow VulneraryThis item is dropped upon this unit's defeat. --
Ma ds02 hunter enemy.gif
Ruffian Hunter 5 1 Steel BowThis item is dropped upon this unit's defeat. --
Ma ds02 paladin enemy.gif
Sirius Paladin 1 1 Steel Lance Iron Sword --
Ma ds02 pirate enemy.gif
Gail Pirate 10 1 Silver Axe Hand Axe BullionThis item is dropped upon this unit's defeat. Immobile; stands on a gate, the chapter's seize point.
Reinforcements
Name Class Lv # Inventory and Skills Notes
Ma ds02 barbarian enemy.gif
Ruffian Barbarian 5 2 Iron Axe --
Ma ds02 pirate enemy.gif
Ruffian Pirate 5 1 Iron Axe --
Ma ds02 hunter enemy.gif
Ruffian Hunter 5 1 Steel Bow --

Reinforcements

Mystery of the Emblem
  • Starting turn 4, continuing until 11 of each have appeared; which appear each turn is random
    • 1 Hunter from the uppermost of the west forts
    • 3 Pirates; 2 from the lower of the west forts, 1 from the east fort
New Mystery of the Emblem
  • Turn 6
    • 1 Hunter from the uppermost of the west forts
    • 2 Barbarians from the lowest of the west forts
    • 1 Pirate from the east fort

Boss data

Main article: Gail
Boss data

Mystery of the Emblem New Mystery of the Emblem

Normal Hard Maniac Lunatic

Small portrait gail fe12.png
Ma ds02 pirate enemy.gif Pirate
Level 10
Movement --
Stats
Max HP 30 Speed 6
Strength 9 Luck 0
Magic 0 Defense 7
Skill 8 Resistance 0
Inventory
Silver Axe
Hand Axe
BullionThis item is dropped upon this unit's defeat.
Weapon Levels
Swords -- Lances -- Axes B
Bows -- Tomes -- Staves --

Strategy

This section details unofficial strategies that may help with completion of the chapter. This may not work for everybody.

This section has been marked as a stub. Please help improve the page by adding information.


In New Mystery of the Emblem, you get your hands on your first Rescue staff in this chapter. Make sure not to blow through all of your charges too early, as you'll need one charge to complete Chapter 6x in an efficient manner.

Etymology and other languages

Names, etymology, and in other regions
Language Name Definition, etymology, and notes
English
(unofficial)

Joy and Sorrow

Used in the Mystery of the Emblem fan translation

Gallery

References

← Abducted Princess •
← Shadows Behind the Scenes (New Mystery only) •
Joy and Sorrow • Liberation of Grust →
Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem
Playable characters Book 1 AbelArranAstramBantuBarstBoahBordCaedaCaesarCainCastorCatriaCordDolphDraugEliceEstGordinHardinJagenJeorgeJulianLenaLindeLorenzMacellanMariaMarthMatthisMerricMidiaMinervaNavarreOgmaPallaRaddRickardRosheaSamsonSedgarTikiTomasVylandWendellWolfXane
Book 2 AbelArlenArranAstramBantuCaedaCainCastorCatriaCecilDraugEliceEstPhinaGordinJeorgeJubeloJulianLenaLindeLukeMariaMarishaMarthMatthisMerricMidiaMinervaNavarreNynaOgmaPallaRickardRoderickRosheaRyanSamsonSamuelSheenaSiriusTikiVylandWarrenWendellXaneYuliya
Non-playable characters Book 1 GotohMalledusNynaTalys King
Book 2 Aurelis KingBoahCamusGotohJagenLangLorenzMichalis
Bosses Book 1 CamusEmereusGazzakGharnefGomerHarmeinHollstadtHymanJiolKannivalKhozenMedeusMerachMichalisMorzasTikiVolzhinXemcelZharov
Book 2 DallEibelEllereanFire DragonGailGharnefHardinHereticIce DragonJeorgeLangLorenzLumelLykkeMage DragonMedeusNehringSheenaTorusWillowWyvernYodel
Background characters AdrahAnriArtemisCaldasCorneliusIoteLizaLudwikMarlonMarcelusNagaOrdwin
Regalia and personal weapons AumAuraExcaliburFalchionFire EmblemGradivusImhulluMercuriusParthiaRapierStarlight
Chapters Book 1 1: Marth Embarks • 2: The Pirates of Galder • 3: A Brush in the Teeth • 4: Champions of Aurelis • 5: Fire Emblem • 6: Lefcandith Gauntlet • 7: Port Warren • 8: Princess Minerva • 9: Knorda Market • 10: The Ageless Palace • 11: Land of Sorrow • 12: An Oasis of Magic • 13: The Battle for Altea • 14: Star and Savior • 15: Manakete Princess • 16: Camus the Sable • 17: A Knight-Filled Sky • 18: Dark Pontifex • 19: The Dragonkin Realm • 20: Chosen by Fate
Book 2 1: The Grustian Expedition • 2: Rebellion at Macedon • 3: Abducted Princess • 4: Joy and Sorrow • 5: Liberation of Grust • 6: The Nest of Evil • 7: The Scarlet Sword • 8: Soulful Bridge • 9: Sanctuary of Sorcery • 10: Two Sorcerers • 11: Anri's Way • 12: Graveyard of Fire Dragons • 13: Frozen Land • 14: A Mystery Revealed • 15: Return of the Prince • 16: Regaining the Capital • 17: Gra's Sun Sets • 18: Battle of the Pass • 19: The Last Decisive Battle • 20: Dark Emperor • E1: The Wyvern's Dale • E2: The Dragon Altar (part 1part 2part 3)
Locations ArchaneaAlteaAnri's WayAurelisDolhr (Dragon Altar) • Empire of ArchaneaGraGrustKhadeinMacedonTalys
Groups, objects and concepts Archanean LeagueCoyote's MenDragons (Divine DragonEarth DragonManakete) • DragoonsHereticsSable OrderWar of HeroesWar of LiberationWar of ShadowsWhitewinged Order
Lists ChaptersCharactersClasses (Class change) • Hidden treasureItemsScriptsSupportsWeapons
Related topics Anime adaptationName chart • Other games (Shadow Dragon & the Blade of LightGaidenGenealogy of the Holy WarArchanea SagaNew Mystery of the EmblemAwakening) • Pre-release information (Unused content) • Sound MuseumTimeline
Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem: Heroes of Light and Shadow
Playable characters AbelArlenArranAstramAthenaBantuBarstBeckBelfBordCaedaCaesarCainCastorCatriaCecilCordDarrosDiceDolphDraugEliceEstEtzelFreyFrostGordinHoraceJakeJeorgeJubeloJulianKatarinaKrisLenaLindeLukeMacellanMaliceMariaMarishaMarthMatthisMerricMichalisMidiaMinervaNagiNavarreNorneNynaOgmaPallaPhinaRaddReidenRickardRobertoRoderickRogerRosheaRyanSamsonSamuelSedgarSheenaSiriusTikiTomasVylandWarrenWendellWolfWrysXaneYmirYuliya
Non-playable characters Aurelis KingBoahCamusGotohJagenLangLorenz
Bosses ArlenAthenaCaedaCainClarisseDallDraugEibelEremiyaEstGailGharnefHardinIce DragonJagenJeorgeKatarinaLangLegionLorenzLumelLukeLykkeMedeusNehringOgmaRoderickSheenaTorusWillowWyvernYodel
Background characters AdrahAnriArtemisCaldasIoteLudwikMarlonMarcelusNagaOrdwin
Regalia and personal weapons AumFalchionGradivusHauteclereImhulluMercuriusParthiaRapierStarlightWing Spear
Chapters Main story P1: MeetingP2: Young SquiresP3: Training BeginsP4: New Companions (Jeorge, Athena) • P5: March DutyP6: Bonds (Ogma, Draug) • P7: The Final Test (Est, Cain) • P8: Assassination of the Hero-King • 1: The Grustian Expedition • 2: Rebellion at Macedon • 3: Abducted Princess • 3x: Shadows Behind the Scenes • 4: Joy and Sorrow • 5: Liberation of Grust • 6: The Nest of Evil • 6x: Mercenary Squad • 7: The Scarlet Sword • 8: Soulful Bridge • 9: Sanctuary of Sorcery • 10: Two Sorcerers • 10x: The Mask Laughs • 11: Anri's Way • 12: Graveyard of Fire Dragons • 13: Frozen Land • 13x: Within the White Darkness • 14: A Mystery Revealed • 15: Return of the Prince • 16: Regaining the Capital • 16x: Reunion • 17: Gra's Sun Sets • 18: Battle of the Pass • 19: The Last Decisive Battle • 20: Dark Emperor • 20x: Bottom of the Deep Abyss • 21: The Wyvern's Dale • 22: The Dragon Altar • 23: The Dark Pontifex LivesE: Light and Shadow
New Archanea Saga 1: The Capital Falls • 2: Red Dragoon • 3: Righteous Thieves • 4: The Beginning
DLC bonus chapters 1: Wind and Thunder • 2: Three Assassins • 3: That Which Was Done by the Sword Shall Be Undone by the Sword
Locations ArchaneaAlteaAnri's WayAurelisDolhr (Dragon Altar) • Empire of ArchaneaGraGrustKhadeinMacedonTalys
Groups, objects and concepts Coyote's MenDragon (Divine DragonEarth DragonManakete) • HereticsSable OrderFire Emblem/Binding ShieldWar of HeroesWar of LiberationWar of ShadowsWhitewinged Order
Lists Base conversationsChaptersCharactersClasses (Class change) • Hidden treasureItemsScriptsSupportsWeapons
Related topics Name chart • Other games (Shadow Dragon & the Blade of LightGaidenMystery of the EmblemArchanea SagaShadow DragonAwakening) • Pre-release information (Unused content) • Sound RoomTimeline