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Forsyth Artwork of Forsyth from Echoes: Shadows of Valentia. A member of the Deliverance fighting to free Zofia.

Gender Male Race Human Age 25 (in Echoes: Shadows of Valentia) Starting class Soldier Voiced by Chris Cason (English, Echoes: Shadows of Valentia and Heroes) Nobuyori Sagara (Japanese, Echoes: Shadows of Valentia and Heroes) Appearance(s) Gaiden Echoes: Shadows of Valentia Heroes

“	I've made a name for myself as a warrior. May as well take that to its logical conclusion and do some more warring.	”	— Forsyth, to Python.

Forsyth (Japanese: フォルス Fols) is a soldier in Fire Emblem Gaiden and its remake Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia. He is a member of the Deliverance.

Fire Emblem Gaiden

Role

Forsyth is the second and last soldier recruited on Alm's route.

He is a member of the Zofian Deliverance, and tells Alm of Desaix's plans to join forces with Rigel and the rumors of Mila's disappearance.

Starting stats and growth rates

Soldier Level 4

Recruitment: Act 1, speak with Alm in the Deliverance Hideout Stats Growth Rates Max HP 28 Luck 3 Strength 11 Defense 7 Skill 4 Resistance 5 Speed 5 Movement 4 Max HP 30% Luck 20% Strength 40% Defense 10% Skill 10% Resistance 0% Speed 20% Recover -- Warp -- Physic -- Expel -- Fortify -- Nosferatu -- Invoke -- Seraphim -- {{{content4}}} {{{content5}}} {{{content6}}} {{{content7}}} {{{content8}}} {{{content9}}} {{{content10}}} {{{content11}}} {{{content12}}} {{{content13}}} {{{content14}}} {{{content15}}} Equipment -- Weapons Sword ✗ Axe ✗ B. Magic ✗ Lance ✓ Bow ✗ W. Magic ✗

Promotion stat gains

Class	HP	Str	Skill	Spd	Lck	Def	Res	Con	Mov	Weapon level
Armor	+x to 34	+x to 16	+0	+0	+0	+x to 12	+1	+0	+0	--
Baron	+x to 40	+x to 22	+x to 6	+0	+0	+x to 18	+6	+0	+0	--

• In Gaiden, promotion gains give the character as many points as necessary—the "x" value shown in the table—to reach the promoted class' base stats. If the character's stats are higher than their promoted class' base stats, they will not receive any bonus; however, if all stats are higher, then they will receive +1 to HP.

Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia

Role

Forsyth reprises his role in the remake. He is also featured in a Memory Prism, where he and Python first join the Deliverance.

Starting stats and growth rates

Main story Outpost Rescue Siege of Zofia Castle

Soldier Level 4 Fatigue tol. 0.5

Recruitment: Act 1, talk to with Alm in the Deliverance Hideout Base Stats Growth Rates Max Stats Max HP 28 Luck 3 Attack 11 Defense 7 Skill 4 Resistance 5 Speed 5 Movement 4 Max HP 45% Luck 35% Attack 45% Defense 35% Skill 30% Resistance 3% Speed 30% Max HP 52 Luck 40 Attack 40 Defense 40 Skill 39 Resistance 40 Speed 41 {{{content4}}} {{{content5}}} {{{content6}}} {{{content7}}} {{{content8}}} {{{content9}}} {{{content10}}} {{{content11}}} {{{content12}}} {{{content13}}} {{{content14}}} {{{content15}}} Item Skills -- Lance Weapons ✗ ✓ ✗ ✗ ✗ ✗

Soldier Level 4

Stats Max HP 26 Luck 3 Attack 11 Defense 6 Skill 4 Resistance 5 Speed 5 Movement 4

Item Skills Bread Lance Weapons ✗ ✓ ✗ ✗ ✗ ✗ ✗

Soldier Level 4

Stats Max HP 29 Luck 4 Attack 12 Defense 8 Skill 5 Resistance 5 Speed 6 Movement 4

Item Skills Leftover Bread Lance Weapons ✗ ✓ ✗ ✗ ✗ ✗ ✗

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Growth rates when reclassed

Villager/Cavalier/Paladin/Gold Knight Mercenary/Myrmidon/Dread Fighter Archer/Sniper/Bow Knight Mage/Sage

Class	HP	Atk	Mag	Skill	Spd	Lck	Def	Res	Cha
Villager/Cavalier/Paladin/Gold Knight	40%	40%	{{{mag}}}	30%	40%	40%	30%	3%	{{{cha}}}

Class	HP	Atk	Mag	Skill	Spd	Lck	Def	Res	Cha
Mercenary/Myrmidon/Dread Fighter	40%	35%	{{{mag}}}	35%	45%	40%	25%	3%	{{{cha}}}

Class	HP	Atk	Mag	Skill	Spd	Lck	Def	Res	Cha
Archer/Sniper/Bow Knight	35%	40%	{{{mag}}}	40%	35%	40%	25%	3%	{{{cha}}}

Class	HP	Atk	Mag	Skill	Spd	Lck	Def	Res	Cha
Mage/Sage	40%	45%	{{{mag}}}	35%	40%	40%	20%	3%	{{{cha}}}

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Skogul/Yasha Spartan Oliphantier Guru

Class	HP	Atk	Mag	Skill	Spd	Lck	Def	Res	Cha
Skogul/Yasha	40%	45%	{{{mag}}}	35%	45%	40%	30%	3%	{{{cha}}}

Class	HP	Atk	Mag	Skill	Spd	Lck	Def	Res	Cha
Spartan	50%	45%	{{{mag}}}	30%	35%	35%	40%	3%	{{{cha}}}

Class	HP	Atk	Mag	Skill	Spd	Lck	Def	Res	Cha
Oliphantier	40%	45%	{{{mag}}}	40%	35%	40%	25%	3%	{{{cha}}}

Class	HP	Atk	Mag	Skill	Spd	Lck	Def	Res	Cha
Guru	40%	50%	{{{mag}}}	35%	40%	45%	25%	3%	{{{cha}}}

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Promotion stat gains

Class	HP	Str	Skill	Spd	Lck	Def	Res	Mov	Weapon level
Armor	+x to 34	+x to 16	+0	+0	+0	+x to 12	+0	+0	--
Baron	+x to 40	+x to 22	+x to 6	+0	+0	+x to 18	+0	+0	--

• In Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia, promotion gains give the character as many points as necessary—the "x" value shown in the table—to reach the promoted class' base stats. If the character's stats are higher than their promoted class' base stats, they will not receive any bonus; however, if all stats are higher, then they will receive +1 to HP.

Analysis

This character analysis section may not be accurate to every player's experience.

Forsyth joins late in Act 1 as a level 4 Soldier. While he has better growths than Lukas in areas like attack and speed, the main problem with him is that he's quite hard to train compared to other units. When recruited in the Deliverance HQ, there is really only one map left for Forsyth to be deployed on. Unfortunately for this Forsyth to be reckoned with, the map proves to be very difficult for him to contribute anything on. Firstly, Soldiers are still limited to four movement at a point where many have already gotten to at least five movement, and Forsyth is generally outclassed by Lukas, as he joins with bases comparable to him, except that Lukas joins at the start of the game, and by that point, he likely already reached his promotion threshold, which is at level 7. Moreover, nearly every other class has access to ranged attacks, either through spells or specific equipment, to compensate for low movement while lance-users still have no access to Javelins or Saunion. This means that Silque must Warp Forsyth to the frontlines for him to see any combat where he can retaliate; however, when he reaches the frontlines, you will find that the enemy cavaliers will double him and deal a noticeable amount of damage with his high HP not fully compensating for his subpar defense base for a Knight while he deals barely anything in return. While Forsyth is in a class line known for its tankiness, he has yet to promote—and is three levels away from doing so—meaning his tanking ability is far surpassed by essentially any other frontliner with better defense or enough speed to avoid getting doubled. For instance, any Villager turned Mercenary, Alm if trained, and a promoted Lukas all surpass Forsyth in tanking capability, all of who are far more ideal units to use Silque's warp spell on. Essentially, you have a unit that is forced to attack at melee-range yet whose stats are far too horrible to do any noteworthy damage and is almost immediately put in mortal peril after one enemy phase. For this reason, it is hardly optimal, and borders on cruelty, to catapult Forsyth to the frontlines with Silque, meaning that for the entire map, Forsyth will likely be rushing to reach the action only to arrive once the fight is practically over; consequently, this also means that he has likely made little to no progress on the three levels he needs to promote.

Once Act III begins, the maps become even more ill-suited to train Forsyth on, much less use any Soldier or Knight on. Post-Act I maps become larger with enemies far more spread out and filled with more magic-users who will often be able to kill him in one-round. Deploying Forsyth on these maps will prove pointless once again due to his poor combat performance, lackluster defenses, and inability to reach the frontlines without help from Silque. Even maps that have choke points are unideal for Forsyth as he is simply worse than Lukas, any Myrmidon with a shield, Alm, and even Clive when it comes to tanking. Moreover, maps that are less empty or smaller are often plagued by Witches, enemy units that can warp themselves anywhere on the map and will target units isolated from the rest of the army. Their favored targets are Armor Knights as they fall behind due to low movement and take massive damage due to their low speed. If you deploy Forsyth on a map with Witches, he is liable to get one-rounded by them since he will likely be underleveled and even if trained will more than likely still get doubled. These factors combined mean that there is not a single map where Forsyth can be deployed and provide some kind of benefit that a different unit cannot perform more competently.

Many would counter these points by arguing you can train Forsyth to promotion in the Deliverance HQ; however, Lukas has been in your party the whole game, has likely promoted by the time you reach Forsyth and you do not need more than one Knight for the finale of Act I nor at any point beyond Act I. At the very least, Forsyth does have a silver lining in his offensive growths; 45% Attack and 30% Speed mean he will hit fairly hard and, with heavy favoritism, be unusually resistant to being doubled for a Baron. Of course, you could also spend that effort on making other units with more potential even stronger - the decision is yours.

Fire Emblem Heroes

Role

Forsyth is one of the characters added to the game in the Lethal Swordsman update, and became available for summoning by players on October 21, 2019. Only one variation of Forsyth is currently available in Heroes, based on his Echoes: Shadows of Valentia incarnation.

Forsyth: Loyal Lieutenant

Starting stats

Forsyth: Loyal Lieutenant is only available at 5★ rarity.

Rarity ★★★★★ Weapon type Movement type

Initial Stats Level 40 Stats Maximum HP 22/23/24 Attack 9/10/11 Speed 4/5/6 Defense 10/11/12 Resistance 6/7/8 Maximum HP 44/47/50 Attack 37/40/44 Speed 17/20/23 Defense 36/39/42 Resistance 30/33/36 {{{content3}}} {{{content4}}} {{{content5}}} {{{content6}}} {{{content7}}} {{{content8}}} {{{content9}}} {{{content10}}} {{{content11}}} {{{content12}}} {{{content13}}} {{{content14}}} {{{content15}}}

Skills Sol Lance -- Glowing Ember

Skill set

Skill set
Skill		Unlock	Auto-unlock	SP cost
	Iron Lance	★★★★★	★★★★★	50
	Steel Lance	★★★★★	★★★★★	100
	Silver Lance	★★★★★	★★★★★	200
	Sol Lance	★★★★★	★★★★★	400
	Glowing Ember	★★★★★	★★★★★	100
	Bonfire	★★★★★	—	200
A	Def/Res Bond 1	★★★★★	—	60
A	Def/Res Bond 2	★★★★★	—	120
A	Def/Res Bond 3	★★★★★	—	240
B	Bold Fighter 1	★★★★★	—	60
B	Bold Fighter 2	★★★★★	—	120
B	Bold Fighter 3	★★★★★	—	240
C	Fortify Def 1	★★★★★	—	50
C	Fortify Def 2	★★★★★	—	100
C	Fortify Def 3	★★★★★	—	200
C	Joint Hone Def	★★★★★	—	300

Personality

Forsyth had very little characterization in Gaiden, owing to his minimal dialogue. He was given an expanded personality in Shadows of Valentia, where he has a straightforward attitude, being very passionate about fighting in the Deliverance. As a result, he is unable to understand apathy in other people, especially his childhood friend Python.

Supports

Main article: Forsyth/Supports

Forsyth Soldier Support conversations: Python Archer C: 20 B: 45 A: 90 Lukas Soldier C: 15 B: 35 A: 60 Clive Cavalier C: 15 B: 35 A: 60 [[{{{supportm4}}}]] Bishop C: {{{cm4}}} B: {{{bm4}}} A: {{{am4}}} [[{{{supportm5}}}]] Bishop C: {{{cm5}}} B: {{{bm5}}} A: {{{am5}}} Bond supports:* Lukas Soldier Bonus: Hit +5 Clive Cavalier Bonus: Hit +5 [[{{{supporto3}}}]] Bishop Bonus: {{{bond3}}} [[{{{supporto4}}}]] Bishop Bonus: {{{bond4}}} [[{{{supporto5}}}]] Bishop Bonus: {{{bond5}}} [[{{{supporto6}}}]] Bishop Bonus: {{{bond6}}} [[{{{supporto6}}}]] Bishop Bonus: {{{bond6}}} [[{{{supporto7}}}]] Bishop Bonus: {{{bond7}}} [[{{{supporto8}}}]] Bishop Bonus: {{{bond8}}} [[{{{supporto9}}}]] Bishop Bonus: {{{bond9}}} [[{{{supporto10}}}]] Bishop Bonus: {{{bond10}}}

See Support § Shadows of Valentia for more details on supports.

Base conversations

Main article: Forsyth/Conversations

Ending

Gaiden

As one of the knights of the kingdom, he works towards the restoration of Valentia.

Echoes: Shadows of Valentia

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If Python and Clive survived
Forsyth joined the One Kingdom's knights after the war, working hard to bring order back to the land. Time took off some of his more caustic edges, and he served many years alongside Clive as a poised and thoughtful lieutenant.

If Clive died
Forsyth joined the One Kingdom's knights after the war, and he lived his life for them as the late Clive would have wanted. Time took off some of Forsyth's more caustic edges, giving him a poised and thoughtful demeanor that reminded many of his old commander.

If Python died
Forsyth joined the One Kingdom's knights after the war. The loss of Python left him empty, which is perhaps why he volunteered to go to the borderlands to bring the king's peace. He met and wed a woman from the area, and the two never returned to the capital.

Quotes

Battle quotes

“	I'm a Forsyth to be reckoned with!	”	— Forsyth after defeating an enemy

The Final Battle quote

“	I have no deference for one who would wield unjust power over his people. Such a despot is no god of mine!	”	— Forsyth

Critical quotes

“	In the name of Zofia!	”	— Forsyth

“	The gauntlets are off!	”	— Forsyth

“	Take care now!	”	— Forsyth

“	Farewell!	”	— Forsyth

Death quotes

“	T-too bad...	”	— Forsyth, in Gaiden.

“	It appears I'm done for... Forgive me, Sir Clive... I'm no use to you any...more...	”	— Forsyth, in Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia (Classic Mode).

“	Oh dear. I seem to have put too much stock in my abilities. I'll get to safety. Carry on without me!	”	— Forsyth, in Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia (Casual Mode).

Heroes quotes

Main article: Forsyth/Quotes (Heroes)

Other appearances

Fire Emblem Cipher

Forsyth is featured on one card in Fire Emblem Cipher.

Fire Emblem Cipher data for Forsyth
	Loyal and Strict Lieutenant, Forsyth
		"Never fear – I intend to slay as many foes as possible in your good name! Long live the Deliverance, and three huzzahs for Sir Clive!"
		Attack: 50	Support: 10	Range: 1	Deploy Cost: 3
		Class: Knight		Tier: Advanced	Class Change Cost: 2
		"Ha! Stand aside!": [Trigger] When this unit is deployed, until the end of your opponent's next turn, this unit gains +20 attack. Armor Expertise: [Always] While this unit is being attacked by a non- unit, this unit gains +20 attack.
	Card #B11-059HN • Artist: Tomohide Takaya
Some card information translation provided by Serenes Forest. For more detailed strategic information on these cards, see their TCG wiki article on Forsyth .

Flavor text

Game	Text (English)	Text (Japanese)
Echoes: Shadows of Valentia (Main game)	A member of the Deliverance fighting to free Zofia.	ソフィア解放軍の一員。
Echoes: Shadows of Valentia (Rise of the Deliverance)	A member of the Zofian Deliverance.	ソフィア解放軍の一員。
Heroes	A soldier with the Deliverance. Advisor to Clive, whom he has sworn an ardent allegiance to. Appears in Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia.	ソフィア解放軍のソルジャー。 クレーベの副官で彼に忠誠を誓う熱血漢。 （登場：『ファイアーエムブレム Echoes』）

Choose Your Legends placement history

Round	Placement	Character	Votes

CYL 1 (2017)

725

Forsyth Gaiden

54

CYL 2 (2018)

270 (−455)

Forsyth Gaiden / Echoes: Shadows of Valentia

839 (+785)

CYL 3 (2019)

274 (+14)

Forsyth Gaiden / Echoes: Shadows of Valentia

820 (−19)

CYL 4 (2020)

522 (+175)

Forsyth Gaiden / Echoes: Shadows of Valentia

174 (−646)

CYL 5 (2021)

485 (−37)

Forsyth Gaiden / Echoes: Shadows of Valentia

144 (−30)

CYL 6 (2022)

478 (−9)

Forsyth Gaiden / Echoes: Shadows of Valentia

150 (+6)

CYL 7 (2023)

482 (+4)

Forsyth Gaiden / Echoes: Shadows of Valentia

101 (−49)

CYL 8 (2024)

505 (+23)

Forsyth Gaiden / Echoes: Shadows of Valentia

92 (−9)

Total results		This character has 8 entries across all Choose Your Legends polls.	2,374

Etymology and other languages

Names, etymology, and in other regions
Language	Name	Definition, etymology, and notes
English	Forsyth	A Scottish and Irish surname, from the Scottish Gaelic Fearsithe, meaning "man of peace", from fear "man" and sìth "peace".
English (unofficial)	Force	Used in the Gaiden fan translation.
Japanese	フォルス	Officially romanized as Fols.
Spanish	Forsyth	As above.
French	Forsyth	As above.
German	Forsyth	As above.
Italian	Forsyth	As above.
Dutch	Forsyth	As above.
Portuguese (Brazil)	Forsyth	As above.
Korean	폴스	Fols
Simplified Chinese	弗鲁斯	Fols
Traditional Chinese	弗魯斯	Fols

Gallery

Sprite Gallery
Soldier Knight Baron Lance Lance Lance

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  Artwork of Lukas, Forsyth, and Python from the art book Fire Emblem: The Complete.

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  Artwork of Forsyth from Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia.

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  Forsyth's portrait in Echoes: Shadows of Valentia.

Heroes artwork

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  Artwork of Forsyth: Loyal Lieutenant from Heroes.

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  Artwork of Forsyth: Loyal Lieutenant from Heroes.

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  Artwork of Forsyth: Loyal Lieutenant from Heroes.

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  Artwork of Forsyth: Loyal Lieutenant from Heroes.

Other appearances

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  Artwork of Forsyth from Fire Emblem Cipher.

References

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